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	<description>Renovating a mid century brick house in the middle of retirement hell. Making it awesome and doing it on a budget.</description>
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		<title>By: The Brick House</title>
		<link>http://www.the-brick-house.com/2010/01/patio-2.html/comment-page-1#comment-7473</link>
		<dc:creator>The Brick House</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2010 06:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] happy to report that the new steel fire pit works much, much, much better than the original version. No cracks, no crumbling, this thing is going to last [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] happy to report that the new steel fire pit works much, much, much better than the original version. No cracks, no crumbling, this thing is going to last [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Brick House</title>
		<link>http://www.the-brick-house.com/2010/01/patio-2.html/comment-page-1#comment-7116</link>
		<dc:creator>The Brick House</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 03:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] old cinder block fire pit did not work. Whoops! (That&#8217;s why I never posted a true DIY). Good thing it was dirt cheap to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] old cinder block fire pit did not work. Whoops! (That&#8217;s why I never posted a true DIY). Good thing it was dirt cheap to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Brick House</title>
		<link>http://www.the-brick-house.com/2010/01/patio-2.html/comment-page-1#comment-4960</link>
		<dc:creator>The Brick House</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 18:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] weekend we finally started working on the cement paver grid that surrounds the fire pit. We ended up going with the cheapo 12 x12&#8243; gray cement pavers from our local building supply. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] weekend we finally started working on the cement paver grid that surrounds the fire pit. We ended up going with the cheapo 12 x12&#8243; gray cement pavers from our local building supply. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: pamela</title>
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		<dc:creator>pamela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 01:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>blake is also my fake boyfriend... his house is insane!  ps.  i just found your blog via hindsvik vintage and i&#039;m in love.

ciao</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>blake is also my fake boyfriend&#8230; his house is insane!  ps.  i just found your blog via hindsvik vintage and i&#8217;m in love.</p>
<p>ciao</p>
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		<title>By: Nicola</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 07:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My personal mantra... &quot;when in doubt look source it via thomasnet&quot;

I&#039;ve found them to be a good starting point for sourcing manufacturers for any and everything....

http://www.thomasnet.com/prodsearch.html?cov=CS&amp;which=prod&amp;what=corten+steel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My personal mantra&#8230; &#8220;when in doubt look source it via thomasnet&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve found them to be a good starting point for sourcing manufacturers for any and everything&#8230;.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thomasnet.com/prodsearch.html?cov=CS&amp;which=prod&amp;what=corten+steel" rel="nofollow">http://www.thomasnet.com/prodsearch.html?cov=CS&amp;which=prod&amp;what=corten+steel</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 17:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try Industrial Metal Supply!  They have a location in Riverside.  I&#039;ve been to the LA location, it&#039;s totally huge and amazing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try Industrial Metal Supply!  They have a location in Riverside.  I&#39;ve been to the LA location, it&#39;s totally huge and amazing.</p>
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		<title>By: jonathan@austinoutdoorstudio.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>jonathan@austinoutdoorstudio.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 16:59:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Guys, &lt;br /&gt;I just thought I&#039;d chime in and offer a little advice if I could.  We use regular hot rolled steel for our edging jobs. We prefer to do everything in 1/4&quot; thick steel if not thicker.  Corten is great for certain installations like commercial planter application to minimize the rusting.  I don&#039;t believe it is necessary for landscaping steel.  You&#039;d be suprised how long it takes for 1/4&quot; steel to rust through.  &lt;br /&gt;Here are some tips for having a local shop do it for you.  &lt;br /&gt;1.) You want to use steel that is atleast 1-2&quot; wider than the height you want out of the ground.  This will help any washout problems that could happen. Hot Rolled steel is available in widths ranging from 1-12&quot; that are 20&#039; long.  If you want talled than 12&quot; you will have to get full sheets fo steel sheared and then weld them together.  &lt;br /&gt;2.) The steel can be anchored to the ground in several ways.  We use 5/8&quot; rebar for most edging installations, but other means for taller structures to get the support.  The rebar stakes need to be pounded into the ground at least 18&quot; and then welded to steel edging.  Tell the welder which side of the steel the stakes need to be welded on.(you shouldn&#039;t be able to see them.   Sometimes it is necesarry to weld angle iron to the back to get perfectly straight edging.  &lt;br /&gt;3.) The most important things to communicate to the welder is it must be straight, plumb and installed level if that is the look you are going for.  Otherwise, what&#039;s the point of paying the extra cost if it doesn&#039;t look right.&lt;br /&gt;4.) Edging takes longer than you might think to install properly  and welder&#039;s rates are not cheap, so keep that in mind if the shop wants to bill you by the hour.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Good luck and keep up the good work, its looking great!&lt;br /&gt;Jonathan Duke&lt;br /&gt;Owner&lt;br /&gt;Austin Outdoor Studio&lt;br /&gt;http://www.austinoutdoorstudio.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Guys, <br />I just thought I&#39;d chime in and offer a little advice if I could.  We use regular hot rolled steel for our edging jobs. We prefer to do everything in 1/4&quot; thick steel if not thicker.  Corten is great for certain installations like commercial planter application to minimize the rusting.  I don&#39;t believe it is necessary for landscaping steel.  You&#39;d be suprised how long it takes for 1/4&quot; steel to rust through.  <br />Here are some tips for having a local shop do it for you.  <br />1.) You want to use steel that is atleast 1-2&quot; wider than the height you want out of the ground.  This will help any washout problems that could happen. Hot Rolled steel is available in widths ranging from 1-12&quot; that are 20&#39; long.  If you want talled than 12&quot; you will have to get full sheets fo steel sheared and then weld them together.  <br />2.) The steel can be anchored to the ground in several ways.  We use 5/8&quot; rebar for most edging installations, but other means for taller structures to get the support.  The rebar stakes need to be pounded into the ground at least 18&quot; and then welded to steel edging.  Tell the welder which side of the steel the stakes need to be welded on.(you shouldn&#39;t be able to see them.   Sometimes it is necesarry to weld angle iron to the back to get perfectly straight edging.  <br />3.) The most important things to communicate to the welder is it must be straight, plumb and installed level if that is the look you are going for.  Otherwise, what&#39;s the point of paying the extra cost if it doesn&#39;t look right.<br />4.) Edging takes longer than you might think to install properly  and welder&#39;s rates are not cheap, so keep that in mind if the shop wants to bill you by the hour.</p>
<p>Good luck and keep up the good work, its looking great!<br />Jonathan Duke<br />Owner<br />Austin Outdoor Studio<br /><a href="http://www.austinoutdoorstudio.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.austinoutdoorstudio.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: modfrugal</title>
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		<dc:creator>modfrugal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 15:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let us know if you find it fo sho since I too have longed for Blake&#039;s edging...and house..and yard....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let us know if you find it fo sho since I too have longed for Blake&#39;s edging&#8230;and house..and yard&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: pegr</title>
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		<dc:creator>pegr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 11:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree will Jill Smith. I am a steel buyer and cor-ten is difficult to source. You can buy premade steel edging from landscape suppliers,our Lowes sells it prefinished in green. The pre-made edging I&#039;ve seen also has slots for the stakes that will keep it in place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree will Jill Smith. I am a steel buyer and cor-ten is difficult to source. You can buy premade steel edging from landscape suppliers,our Lowes sells it prefinished in green. The pre-made edging I&#39;ve seen also has slots for the stakes that will keep it in place.</p>
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		<title>By: lisa tomiko</title>
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		<dc:creator>lisa tomiko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 06:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you checked out Big Red Sun? They&#039;re in Venice, but they&#039;ve got some inspiring yards (their prices are not exactly reasonable).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;http://bigredsun.com/cd_portfolio/index.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you checked out Big Red Sun? They&#39;re in Venice, but they&#39;ve got some inspiring yards (their prices are not exactly reasonable).</p>
<p><a href="http://bigredsun.com/cd_portfolio/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://bigredsun.com/cd_portfolio/index.html</a></p>
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